This breeding was truly awesome i took purple ribbon old school razor blood like grandchamp throwin knuckles,blue dozer all the old legends, you remember And bred him that onehundred % edge to old school lyvers bloodline,better kown today as Bill & Thois, thats known for that really short wide thick gotti dog aka pocket pits.When u mix these to bloods together u produce wide short thick bullies. eleven hundred is what im asking but negotiable serious inquiries only